Ham Kinsey
born: 21 February 1900
Williams, South Carolina,
United States of America

*some sources list a birthdate of 20 Feb.
died: 09 December 1967
Los Angeles, California,
United States of America
(age 67)
American actor, stuntman, stand-in, and property man who was regularly used as a stand-in and double for Stan Laurel and Charley Chase.
Hamilton Richard (or Risher) Kinsey was born in February 1900 (although the 1900 U.S. Census says April) in Colleton County, South Carolina; the date was either the 20th (WWII draft reg. card, Social Security Death Index) or the 21st (CA Death Index, headstone), and the specific place within Colleton County was either the city of Walterboro (WWII draft reg. card, 1948 marriage certificate) or the town of Williams (WWI service record). He was the youngest of six children born to Mary Elizabeth (née Williams) (1864-1933) and Ervin Erasmus "Raz" Kinsey (1860-1936), who were married around 1882. His older siblings were Wilhelmina (m. Wiseman, 1882-1962), Jefferson Warren (1884-1946), Harriett Ann (m. Dittman, 1886-1972), Erasmus Ervin (1888-1921), and Joseph Chandler (1897-1970). In the 1900 U.S. Census (taken 7 July), the Kinsey family is living in Warren Township, Colleton County, South Carolina. The Kinseys later moved to Savannah, Georgia, where they are residing in the 1910 (27 Apr) and 1920 U.S. Censuses.
When World War I grasped the U.S. in its battles, Ham answered the call to serve his country. Living in Bunnell, Florida at the time, Hamilton R. Kinsey, service no. 814,569, enlisted at Fort Screven, Georgia on 14 June 1918. At the time, he bluffed a little by adding a year to his real age (he claimed to be 19 years and 4 months old at the time). He served in the Engineers Training Regiment Corps "mp A A" in Humphreys, Virginia until 20 August 1918, whereupon he was transferred to Company A, 606 Engineers, serving there until his discharge. He was promoted to Corporal on 31 October 1918, then to Sergeant on 12 December 1918. Sgt. Hamilton R. Kinsey was honorably discharged on 18 January 1919 on demobilization. He did not serve overseas and was 0% disabled on date of discharge. In the 1920 U.S. Census (7-8 Jan), Ham is living with his folks and brother Joseph in Savannah and working as a rivet inspector at a ship yard.
Ham moved to Los Angeles sometime during 1920-21; Hamilton R. Kinsey, of 222 W 4th, is working as a salesman for "Harry S Mason & Co" in the 1921 Los Angeles City Directory. In the 1922 City Directory, a Hamilton Kinsey is living at 1526 S Hope; no profession is listed. Ham worked at the Hal Roach Studios as early as 1921; he pops up in a bit role in Harold Lloyd's "Never Weaken" and also appears to have worked on the crew for that film, judging by a behind-the-scenes photograph. By the end of 1923, he is working at the Roach studio as a prop man on the Stan Laurel comedies (1923-24). By January 1924, he was assistant director to Jay A. "Kitty" Howe on the "Spat Family" comedies. A May 1927 blurb even lists Kinsey among the Roach studio writing staff, but by the end of the decade, Ham's regular behind-the-scenes role on Roach productions would once again be as a prop man.
On 6 September 1923, he married Helen Croom Johnson (b. 2 Sep 1902 in Jacksonville, Florida), with whom he would have a son, Richard Hamilton Kinsey (b. Hamilton Richard Kinsey, Jr., 1924-2003). On both their marriage certificate and Hamilton, Jr.'s birth certificate (7 July 1924), Ham lists his occupation as assistant director in motion pictures. Ham also claims to be born in St. Augustine, Florida on the birth certificate (he states just "Fla." on the marriage certificate). They were living in Ocean Park at the time of the marriage, and at Montezuma Apts. in Venice, California at the time of Hamilton, Jr.'s birth. (Note: Helen's middle name is Olivia on other records.)
Ham would eventually begin making more onscreen appearances in Roach comedies. Occasionally, in shorts such as "Chickens Come Home" or "Catch-As-Catch-Can," he would be given a bit of dialogue; moments such as "Chickens Come Home" usually revealed a pleasant, low-key Southern drawl, but other instances such as "Catch-As-Catch-Can" reveal such a voice could elevate to a harsh, coarse bark. Beginning around 1927-28, Ham began serving as Stan Laurel's stand-in and stunt double, regularly acting as such for the next decade; Ham also frequently doubled for Charley Chase during the early-mid 1930s.
In the 1930 U.S. Census (10 Apr), the Kinseys are renting an apartment at the West Boulevard Apartments (2628 West Boulevard) in Los Angeles, for $35 a month (that would be about $621/month in 2022). Hamilton R. Kinsey, age 29 of Georgia (really South Carolina), is a property man in motion pictures, and is a veteran of the World War. He is living with wife Helen O. (28, b. Florida) and their son Richard H. (5, b. California).
In addition to serving as Stan's double, Ham also served as something of a put-upon "court jester" on the Laurel & Hardy sets. Roach special effects wizard Roy Seawright recalled to historians Richard W. Bann and Randy Skretvedt, "Stan would make [Ham] do the damnedest things; he'd make him wear a piece of pie on his shoulder, or make him walk around wearing a big red [rose or nose]." In one gag during the filming of "Way Out West," Stan asked Ham to fetch his special "laughing suspenders" from the wardrobe department; however, wardrobe head Harry Black (who had been tipped off by Stan) explained to Ham that the suspenders had been lent to the RKO studio. The RKO studio was also alerted of the gag, as were all of the other studios, and each wardrobe department informed Ham that the suspenders had been loaned to another studio, sending poor Ham driving all over Hollywood on a wild goose chase.
Another gag during the same shoot turned sour: Ham was put into the block-and-tackle pulley harness intended for Dinah the Mule; once Ham was hoisted, not merely to the balcony where Dinah was, but all the way up to the top of the soundstage 30 feet in the air, Stan called the crew to go to lunch, leaving Ham stuck and hollering to be let down while Stan and the crew laughed behind the stage door until a grip finally got Ham down. However, it turned out Ham nearly suffocated and had been unable to breathe; Stan repeatedly apologized upon learning this. Seawright concluded, "[Stan] just didn't seem to realize the embarrassment that Ham went through so Stan could have everyone on the stage laughing and happy all the time. It made Stan look good, but Ham took the brunt of it."
During filming of "Swiss Miss," Ham got in a prank on Stan when he showed up at the soundstage dressed as Abraham Lincoln, complete with suit, stovepipe hat, beard, and even the facial mole; a greatly-amused Stan then had Ham learn and recite the Gettysburg Address (footage of Ham's recitation, albeit on the set of "Way Out West," appears in the blooper reel "That's That!"). In November 1934, extra John D. Wood sued Stan and Ham (referred to in the papers as "Hamilton McKenzie") and several other John Does, claiming back and head injuries after they threw him in a ducking pond as part of another prank gone wrong during the filming of "Babes In Toyland."
Though usually appearing in Roach films, Ham occasionally showed up in films for other studios: at the very end of Buster Keaton's "The Cameraman" (MGM, 1928), Ham is getting his tintype photo taken by Buster when they are interrupted by Marceline Day (shout-out to Tommie Hicks for finding this appearance!). Ham and fellow Roach vet Dick Gilbert worked on Wheeler & Woolsey's "The Nitwits" (RKO, 1935), directed by one-time Roach cameraman (and "Boy Friends" director) George Stevens and co-written by Roach alum Fred Guiol; Ham can also be seen in "Destry Rides Again" (Universal, 1939), directed by another Roach alum, George Marshall. Ham also shows up as a bellhop in "It's in the Air" (MGM, 1935) with Jack Benny and Ted Healy. A contemporaneous newspaper photo confirms that Ham served in his usual position as Stan's stand-in on Laurel & Hardy's non-Roach RKO feature "The Flying Deuces." By the time of the boys' post-Roach 1941-45 Fox/MGM ventures, Chet Brandenburg took over as Stan's go-to double.
Ten years later in the 1940 U.S. Census (18 Apr), the Kinseys are still living at 2628 West Boulevard, now renting for $29 a month (about $614/month in 2022). Hamilton, age 40 and once again claiming to be born in Georgia, is working as a stand-in in "moving pictures," working 52 weeks in 1939 and earning $100 (a little over $2,100 in 2022); he worked 56 hours during the week of 24-30 March 1940. Present again are wife Helen (38, b. Florida) and son Richard (15, b. California). In the 1940 Los Angeles City Directory, after several years of being listed as an actor (1934, 1935) or studio worker (1938, 1939), Ham's occupation is salesman, as it was back in 1921; he is an actor again in the 1941 City Directory. (Ham's listings in 1932, 1933, 1936, and 1937 do not list an occupation for him.)
When Hamilton Richard Kinsey filled out his World War II draft registration card, dated 14 February 1942, he states he is living at 2500½ Washington Blvd., Los Angeles, Cal. and that he is 41 years old (he'd be 42 in another six days), born on 20 February 1900 in Waterboro [sic], South Carolina. For his employer's name and address, Kinsey gives the Terminix Co. of Southern California, "1900 or 2000" Washington Blvd., Los Angeles. (Terminix is a pest control company; perhaps he was peddling their product.) He gives the name of Robert A. Golden, Metro Goldwyn Studios, Culver City, as the name and address of the person who will always know his address; this would be Robert "Red" Golden, Harold Lloyd's longtime assistant director and double who was indeed now working for MGM (although coincidentally, an 18-year old named Robert Golden is living at the same apartment as the Kinseys in the 1940 Census). Kinsey is white, with brown eyes, gray hair, ruddy complexion, and a "scar on [his] knee." The height and weight sections are left blank.
Hamilton R. Kinsey re-enlisted for duty on 20 May 1942. Per his enlistment record (which cuts off the "n" at the end of his first name), he worked under the civilian occupation of "showmen," stood 70 inches (5'10") tall, and weighed 138 pounds. He was wounded in the arm while serving overseas in August 1944. He was discharged as a Staff Sergeant on 13 April 1945. During his service, 41-year old Helen Olivia Kinsey passed away on 16 October 1943 (12:10pm) at Los Angeles County General Hospital (where she had been for 22 days), of medullary suppression (3 days) due to "infectious polyneuritis (cause unknown)" (4 mo.), with "purilent [sic] cystitis" (5 days) and chronic alcoholism (unknown duration) listed as other conditions. Her usual place of residence was listed as 2022 Claudena Ave., Los Angeles. Helen and Ham had been married for just over 20 years.
On 2 August 1948, 48-year old widower Hamilton Richard Kinsey remarried to Virginia Wise Lewter (1903-1995), an Oklahoma native and saleslady at Sears Roebuck & Co. Ham was now living at 1412 So. Victoria Ave., Los Angeles, and was once again a salesman, this time for the Carnation Milk Company. He states on the marriage certificate that he was born in Walterboro, South Carolina. This marriage would last for 19 years until Ham's death.
As a veteran of both World Wars, Hamilton R. Kinsey, S. Sgt. US Army, is buried at Los Angeles National Cemetery; Section 129, Row F, Site 5.
Real name: Hamilton Richard Kinsey
Height: 5'10"
Films listed on this page: complete Hal Roach filmography.



Never Weaken
Acrobat lesson observer


Safety Last!
Store employee

Isn't Life Terrible?

Thundering Fleas
Wedding guest

The Merry Widower
Oyster bar clerk

Mighty Like A Moose
Dentists' photographer

Shivering Spooks
Professor Fleece's assistant
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

Crazy Like A Fox
Train passenger

The Fourth Alarm!

War Feathers

45 Minutes From Hollywood
Hotel guest

Anything Once!
Streetcar hopeful

Two-Time Mama
Elevator operator

Hats Off!
Pedestrian #3

Chicken Feed
Animal trainer

The Battle Of The Century
Ringside spectator

Eclipse-viewing customer

Edison, Marconi & Co.
Man on street
[*image is from still]

Barnum & Ringling, Inc.
Lobby guest

You're Darn Tootin'
Musician/Street combatant

Their Purple Moment
Man fleeing nightclub

The Ol' Gray Hoss
Man hoisting piano

Two Tars

Election Day
Man carrying basket of sausages/Gangster

A Pair Of Tights
Man leaving ice cream parlour

Double Whoopee
Jean Harlow's Cab driver
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

Little Mother

Train engineer

Leaping Love
Reporter who tips his hat

Snappy Sneezer
Streetcar passenger

Crazy Feet

Saturday's Lesson
Pedestrian #1

The Hoose-Gow

Man at desk

Shivering Shakespeare
First man hit with pie

The Real McCoy
Man in wagon/
Man at dance

Looser Than Loose
Nightclub patron who falls down steps

Be Big!
Passerby at train station

Chickens Come Home
Mr. Kinsey (office worker)/
Elevator operator in apartment block

Rough Seas
Doughboy on deck

Spuk um Mitternacht
Stan Laurel's double

One Of The Smiths
Train passenger/Smoker

Let's Do Things
Nightclub patron
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

The Panic Is On
Man on street

Catch-As Catch-Can
Usher at wrestling match

One Good Turn
Auction passerby

The Kick-Off!
Football referee

Beau Hunks
[unidentified character]


The Nickel Nurser
Charley Chase's stand-in

Red Noses

The Music Box
Stand-in for Stan Laurel

Strictly Unreliable

Too Many Women
Baseball umpire

First In War
Soldier handing letter to Lt. Griffin/
Stunt double for Charley Chase

The Old Bull
Farm hand

County Hospital
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

What Price Taxi

Strange Innertube

Pack Up Your Troubles
Telegraph boy/
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

Alum And Eve

Free Wheeling
Roadside worker

The Soilers
Man entering hotel/Gangster

Taxi For Two

Asleep In The Feet
Dance hall patron

Twice Two
Stan Laurel's stunt double

Nature In The Wrong

Taxi Barons
Patrol car cop

Sherman Said It

Soup And Fish

I'll Be Suing You

It Happened One Day
Stunt double for Charley

Them Thar Hills
Stan's stunt double

One-Horse Farmers
Subway passenger

Babes In Toyland

The Live Ghost
Asleep outside The Crow's Nest

The Chases Of Pimple Street
Pedestrian/Nightclub dancer

An All-American Toothache
Dental student

Vamp Till Ready

Neighborhood House
Theatre patron

General Spanky
[unidentified character]


https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M3RL-VCD (1900 Census)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MLK3-WH9 (1910 Census)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL31-HL4L (WWI service card)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MJ8G-8BZ (1920 Census)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8NQ-KT1 (1923 marriage)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XCVW-4Z7 (1930 Census)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K9C1-H3D (1940 Census)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGF9-K2C7 (WWII draft reg. card)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8LH-9V6 (WWII enlistment)
Hamilto [sic] R Kinsey, "U.S., World War II Hospital Admission Card Files, 1942-1954" (Ancestry.com)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K8KT-7TC (1948 marriage)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPKR-971 (CA Death Index)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V32X-JZK (Social Security Death Index)
Hamilton Richard Kinsey, "U.S., Headstone Applications for Military Veterans, 1925-1970" (Ancestry.com)
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/877762 (Find a Grave)
https://archive.org/details/camera06unse/page/n851/mode/1up?q=%22hamilton+kinsey%22&view=theater (Camera! 15 Dec 1923)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/19301387/ (Hamilton Evening Journal, 09 Feb 1924)
https://archive.org/details/exhibitorsherald29unse/page/n1368/mode/1up?q=%22hamilton+kinsey%22&view=theater (Exhibitors Herald, 21 May 1927)
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=SBS19341123.1.2 (San Bernardino Daily Sun, 23 Nov 1934)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/588601701/ (Johnson City Chronicle, 30 May 1935)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/380651487/ (Los Angeles Times, 10 Jun 1936)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/563591739/ (Spokane Daily Chronicle, 10 Jun 1936)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/599998113/ (Shreveport Journal, 15 Oct 1936)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/354965204/ (Chicago Tribune, 24 Oct 1936)
https://archive.org/details/photoplayvolume551chicx/page/n29/mode/1up?q=%22ham+kinsey%22&view=theater (Photoplay, Jan 1937)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/1911767/ (Hope Star, 02 Jul 1938)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/103543809/ (Daily Reporter [Greenfield, IN], 08 Dec 1939)
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/380787844/ (Los Angeles Times, 22 Oct 1944)
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=LAECN19450116.1.13 (Citizen-News [Hollywood, CA], 16 Jan 1945)
https://cdnc.ucr.edu/?a=d&d=LAECN19450116-02.1.2 (Citizen-News [Hollywood, CA], 16 Jan 1945)
http://www.laurel-and-hardy.com/films/features/west-script.html (Laurel & Hardy: The Official Website)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGLW-YQCK (son Hamilton Richard's birth, 1924)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGRS-6FGC (first wife Helen's death certificate, 1943)
1921 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton R slsmn Harry S Mason & Co r 222 W 4th
1922 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton h1526 S Hope
1932 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton R (Helen) h2628 West blvd
1933 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton R (Helen) h2628 West blvd
1934 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton (Helen) actor h2628 West blvd
1935 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton R (Helen) actor h2628 West blvd
1936 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton R (Helen) h2628 West blvd
1937 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton (Helen) h2628 West blvd
1938 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton (Helen) studiowkr h2628 West blvd
1939 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton R (Helen) studiowkr h2628 West blvd
1940 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton (Helen) slsmn h2628 West blvd
1941 L.A. City Dir.: Kinsey Hamilton R (Helen) actor h2628 West blvd
Jesse Brisson (for writing 'The Book Of Hamsey' biography which must have taken a decade to compile!)
Tommie Hicks (additional information)
Craig Calman (identification in The Soilers)
Stéphane Maltais (identification in Election Day)
Jim Jarvis, Randy Skretvedt, Christian Blees (detective work, help and assistance; identification in Neighborhood House)
Ham's appearances in Rough Seas, Taxi Barons, I'll Be Suing You, Isn't Life Terrible?, Zenobia, Safety Last!, Their Purple Moment and The Old Bull are my own observations.

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