Lyle Tayo

born: 19 January 1889
Elmdale, Kansas,
United States of America
died: 02 May 1971
Hollywood, Los Angeles, California,
United States of America
(age 82)

American actress who frequently popped up in the films of Our Gang, Laurel & Hardy and other series shot at the Hal Roach Studios in the 1920s and early 1930s.
According to film historian Randy Skretvedt, her name Lyle is pronounced as Lily. However, her name is pronounced "Lyle" (rhymes with smile) in the film "Red Noses".
Her remains are interred in Valhalla Memorial Park in North Hollywood, California.

The following research and notes are from Steve Wright:
This clipping may not be very fascinating, but it's the earliest mention of Lyle Tayo I have ever seen. I had read that she was a stage star before films. I thought she had just been *born* middle-aged. I have always wondered how some of the less luminous stars in the Roach stable got into pictures in the first place. Fay Holderness, Otto Fries, Kay Deslys, etc. turn up in dozens of films, sometimes for just a few frames, but there must have been a reason they were signed in the first place.
It's not your everyday topic when it comes to cinema of the 1920s, but in one respect I have to admit the film What's the World Coming To? shows more foresight than maybe they were aware of at the time. Late one night back in the 1980s I was listening to a syndicated radio programme of Dr. Demento and he played a disc from the 1920s called something like "Those Masculine Women and Feminine Men" and while I imagine it was just supposed to be a joke, maybe not... suffice it to say they may have dressed Lyle Tayo up to look like a man as a lark for a film, but seeing it the first time was a genuine WTF moment for me, it seems so way ahead of its time. To me Lyle doesn't look so much like a man, as she does a genuine lesbian.

Filed in California, 25 sept 1946:
As above indicated, there are 11 reporters' transcripts herein. It has been stated in the briefs herein and in the arguments before the court that the case of Lyle Tayo is typical and representative of the evidence in all the cases. The issues herein as to all the cases have been presented and submitted upon the theory that the determination as to the Lyle Tayo case should also be the determination in the other cases. Lyle Tayo, 56 years of age [sRw: 57] , has been employed intermittently as an extra player for approximately 25 years, principally as a dancer [sRw: *shrug*]. Her dancing included old-fashioned and modern dancing, and jitterbugging [sRw: *that* must have been an instructive sight] . She has the costumes required for her work as an extra player. According to the records of the department of employment, her earnings during the base period of her claim for benefits, being the year 1943, amounted to $479.88. During the first 10 months of 1944 she received $672.15. She filed her claim for unemployment insurance benefits with the department of employment on May 15, 1944, and on that date she registered with the public employment office in her district for work as an extra player. She did not receive any work through the public employment office, but, from the time of filing her claim to October 31, 1944, she obtained, through her own efforts, 35 days of work as an extra player and received earnings in the sum of $436.82. During the weeks of unemployment in that period she received unemployment benefits at the rate of $13 per week. [76 Cal. App. 2d 237]
At the time of registering for employment and applying for unemployment insurance benefits, she stated in her application that she would not accept any kind of employment other than that of extra player at $10.50 or more per day. She said at the hearing before the referee that she would not accept work as an extra player at $5.50 per day. She said that her experience and ability "calls for at least $10.50," and that she could not "get the better work," if she accepted the $5.50 work. In other words she has restricted acceptable employment to work in motion pictures as an extra player at a minimum wage of $10.50 per day. During the year and a half preceding her application for unemployment insurance benefits she accepted only employment as an extra for which she would be paid a minimum of $10.50 per day, but on many occasions during several years prior thereto she accepted employment at the $5.50 rate. She said at the hearing before the referee that she could not work as a sales clerk in a store, because she is nervous and not too strong; that she would not accept work that is confining; that work "in the studio is so much different, because one day it is one thing, and the other day it is something else," and she "is not tied right down to something confining." She also said that she was physically able to work continuously as an extra player. She said further that she would accept work other than in motion pictures if the amount to be paid therefor was $10.50 per day.

Unlikely anybody finds this interesting save myself. But it does seem to indicate, contrary to what I have seen elsewhere, that she just retired from film work in the '30s. I find it somewhat ironic she claimed she was principally a dancer, as the one thing I have never seen her do in a film was dance. The closest thing to a dance step may have been when she kicked Blanche Payson's ass in Dogs Is Dogs.
Actually, all this research is a result of the fact that earlier this year I found she has no grave marker. I was wondering why, so I decided to see what turned up from Internet searching. Going from a dual role in a Broadway show in '11 down to Vaudeville in the late 'teens then to minor parts in comedy shorts and a few features then to being an extra scrounging for work and unemployment benefits (which BTW were denied), it may just be she was broke when she died. Where her husband, or any other family, was is anybody's guess. I imagine the trail ends here.
I found a bit more on Lyle Tayo, including her earliest stage appearance yet (1909). Also a couple of more stage credits, including a stage play that she may have been in as early as 1908 and one as late as 1922 and a couple of appearances in Paramount-Christie shorts.
FWIW, I offered to put up a grave marker myself -- all L&H alumni should have one -- and the cemetery said they would be happy to assist on that, only they told me I had to locate a family member to sign off on it. I am as likely to find a family member as I would be locating "Hats Off." She's been dead for nearly 50 years, and I would think any family member that actually cared would have put a marker there by now. Meh...
Per your census sources and my research, I now have the Shipman Mother & Daughters making it out to California somehow (Mom Shipman died there in 1942) -- and also possibly falling into money (a lot of it). There is a mystery man named Herbert Reynolds who married sister Bernice, (he was still alive in 1940, and that LT had moved out of 622 by that point.) However, it was Bernice who built up the property on Lots 16 & 17, Block 60 in Beverly Hills (in 1918) -- which, not exactly blindly, I make out to be 622 North Camden Drive (what those lots are worth today would make one sick). What happened to Reynolds?
By 1920, LT and Bernice appear to be at the same residence, LT's occupation being "Actress, Moving Pictures. My questioning how LT could possibly afford to own a home on Camden drive seems to be answered...perhaps she didn't. Her sister did. Was Reynolds a dead rich guy? Did Bernice divorce him and take him to the cleaners? *shrug*
By the late teens the Shipman sisters have taken to billing themselves as natives of LA, and rather well-to-do ones at that (Toto, we're not in Kansas anymore):
Newspaper clipping
This makes her trying to score $13 per week between gigs in '43 (while less gifted and more patriotic middle-aged women were building airplanes for Lockheed) *really* appear to be a meteoric fall. This is only like 15 pieces of a much larger puzzle, but I have to admit I find it interesting, if pointless.
Lastly, I can't say as I am 100% certain, but I think LT's swan song was in "Miracle of the Bells" (1948). If it is, her last line ever would have been "it's a miracle!" (Screenshot here).
~~ Steve Wright.
Real name: Lyle Shipman
Films listed on this page: complete Hal Roach filmography.

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1921
Among Those Present
?

1924
At First Sight
Miss Hope Van Stutterford
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1924
Tire Trouble
Madame La Rue
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1924
The Cowboy Sheik
Woman at dance

1924
Big Business
Mickey's mother

1924
Powder And Smoke!
Blanche's mother

1924
Commencement Day
Mary's mother
 

1924
Publicity Pays
Mrs. Fiasco

1924
Cradle Robbers
Angry mother

1924
Jubilo, Jr.
Jubilo's mother

1924
Outdoor Pajamas
Housewife

1924
Fast Company
Woman whose hat blows up

1925
The Big Town
Mickey & Mary's mother

1925
Dog Days
Mother

1925
Shootin' Injuns
Johnny's mother

1925
Ask Grandma
Martha (Mickey's mother)

1925
Chasing The Chaser
Wife
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1925
Yes, Yes, Nanette
Nanette
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1925
Mary, Queen Of Tots
Mrs. Newman (Mary's mother)
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1925
No Father To Guide Him
Milk customer

1925
Better Movies
Billy's mother

1925
His Wooden Wedding
Passenger who is hit by flying underwear

1926
What's The World Coming To?
Bride's best man

1926
Buried Treasure
Johnny's mother
 

1926
Thundering Fleas
Pedestrian without fleas
 

1926
The Merry Widower
Crowd extra

1926
Crazy Like A Fox
Nurse

1926
Should Husbands Pay?
Wife

1926
45 Minutes From Hollywood
Woman in hotel
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1927
Bring Home The Turkey
Maid

1927
Should Men Walk Home?
Guest

1927
Ten Years Old
Joe's mother
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1927
Forgotten Sweeties
Landlady
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1927
Baby Brother
Party guest
 

1927
Don't Tell Everything
Mrs. Doodlebaum

1927
Sailors, Beware!
Passenger

1927
Call Of The Cuckoo
Wife #1
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1927
Heebie Jeebies
Joe's wife

1927
Dog Heaven
Clarabelle's mother

1927
The Battle Of The Century
Woman at window
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1928
Playin' Hookey
Joe's mother
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1928
Rainy Days
Mother

1928
You're Darn Tootin'
Passerby

1928
Their Purple Moment
Mrs. Hardy
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1928
Should Married Men Go Home?
Lady golfer (presumed)
 

1928
The Ol' Gray Hoss
Woman with soot on face

1928
Two Tars
Motorist
 

1928
The Boy Friend
Mrs. Elliott
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1928
The Spanking Age
Stepmother
 

1929
Noisy Noises
Joe's mother
 

1929
Loud Soup
Mrs. Nosey

1929
Big Business
First customer
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1929
Movie Night
Movie patron
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1929
Small Talk
Mrs. Brown of the orphanage
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1929
Little Mother
Mother
 

1929
Railroadin'
Train passenger

1929
Perfect Day
Neighbor (Baldwin Cooke's wife)

1929
Hotter Than Hot
Tenant

1929
Bouncing Babies
Nurse
 

1930
Shivering Shakespeare
Norman's mother

1930
Below Zero
Woman leaving institution

1930
Tiembla y Titubea
Woman leaving institution

1930
A Tough Winter
Radio announcer
 

1930
Pups Is Pups
Dorothy's mother
 

1930
Bigger And Better
Hollywood Kate, the shoplifter
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1930
Looser Than Loose
Nightclub patron

1930
School's Out
Lady walking by stream
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1931
The Pip From Pittsburg
Nightclub patron

1931
One Of The Smiths
Sleepy lady on train

1931
One Good Turn
Community player
DVD screencapture - Lord Heath - Laurel & Hardy - Another Nice Mess - http://www.lordheath.com/

1931
Dogs Is Dogs
Wheezer's aunt
 

1931
Hasty Marriage
Streetcar passenger

1932
Readin' And Writin'
Brisbane's mother

1932
The Knockout
Landlady
 

1932
Red Noses
Physical therapist

1932
You're Telling Me
Mrs. Morgan (Eddie's mother)

1932
Choo-Choo!
Secretary

1932
Show Business
Woman on stairs

1932
The Soilers
Housewife

1933
Backs To Nature
Passerby

1934
Babes In The Goods
Customer

1934
For Pete's Sake!
Fred's wife

Acknowledgements & sources:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-13029-77799-64?cc=1325221 (1900 Census, line 40)
https://archive.org/stream/13thcensus1910po1026unit#page/n584/mode/1up (1910 Census, line 77)
https://archive.org/stream/14thcensusofpopu102unit#page/n526/mode/1up (1920 Census, line 75)
https://archive.org/stream/californiacensus00reel124#page/n261/mode/1up (1930 Census, line 92)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-29947-59490-64?cc=1804002 (marriage certificate)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-29947-51933-53?cc=1804002 (marriage certificate)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-27796-1910-92?cc=2000219 (1940 Census, line 28)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VPZ9-RFL (CA Death Index)
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V3K5-2YX (SS Death Index)
https://fqtemporary.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/pageviews_6904.pdf
1900 Census: Lyle M. Shipman,
1910+1920 Census: Lyle Shipman,
1930+1940 Census: Minnie L. Shipman,
Marriage certificate: Minnie L. Shipman,
1940 Census: Minnie L. Barton,
CA Death Index: Lyle Barton,
SS Death Index: Lyle Tayo
Jesse Brisson (help and information)
Matthew Lydick (identification in Spooky Hooky)
Rose Duelly (identification in Hasty Marriage)
Steve Wright (identification in Babes In The Goods, lots of bio notes)
Scott Margolin (identification in The Soilers; Back To Nature)
Steve Wright (identification in Railroadin', His Wooden Wedding, What's The World Coming To? + screenshot;
The Pip From Pittsburgh + screenshots & Sailors Beware, Bring Home The Turkey, You're Darn Tootin')
At least one source lists her as Spanky's mother in "Spooky-Hooky". She did pose in this publicity still but did not appear in the film.
Craig Calman (identification in The Merry Widower)

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