Welcome to ANOTHER NICE MESS. This website aims to cover review of films made by the Hal Roach Studios between 1914-1948;
as well as the individual films featuring Stan Laurel, Oliver Hardy, Charley Chase and the Our Gang short films made for MGM.
This website is non-profit and is maintained by just one person, which takes up a considerable amount of my time.
Your contribution, however small, will be acknowledged with a personal reply and a credit on the site.
ANM 2021 WEBSITE OVERHAUL:|
This website is currently undergoing some major and much needed reconstruction. You may find broken links, pages that don't exist, and conflicting page styles. Don't worry - this is "normal". Actors' pages will remain unchanged, but the film review pages are all going to be changed. A few examples can already be viewed on the site. Keep checking the LATEST UPDATES section for all the latest developments.
~DLH, February 2021.
|LATEST UPDATED/REVIEWED FILMS||LATEST UPDATED/ADDED ACTORS|
|LATEST UPDATES IN THE LAST MONTH||
-Bob Peterson has identified Harry Harvey Jr. in two Our Gang films. I do have a pretty big backlog of mails from Bob regarding Our Gang IDs to sift through which I shall get to eventually. 27 mails, in fact!
-The third and final installment in the Charley Chase At Hal Roach Talkies (1934-1936) DVD has been announced for a release date of August. See here.
-More helpful donations from several people coming in (some have asked not to be credited). All money raised is being put towards my WALK TO WALES fund in July. Thank you Jim, Bob, Chris, Eric, Rob, Arn, Bill and others.
-Elmo Billings makes his debut in the Top 266 with a new film credit discovered.
-Added Tex Parker and Don Bailey to the site.
-Big thanks to Jim Jarvis for his 20th donation to the site, who specifically offers $20.21 towards my "Walk To Wales" fund. This helps enormously, thank you.
-I have now removed the general forum for the site as I regard it as redundant, unnecessary and rarely used (it was also getting a lot of spam). If you want to submit suggestions, corrections or information to be included on this website then please continue to use the the corrections forum.
-New film credits found for F.F. Guenste, Ed Brandenburg, Alice Belcher, Sam Lufkin and Pete Gordon. [with help from Jesse Brisson] As a result of some of these, I have updated the relevant credits on the The Top Credits page.
-Added a page for Max Davidson's Blow By Blow (1928), and 7 stills for the film.
-Added Georgia O'Dell and J. Parks Jones to the site.
-Added new film credits for Kay Deslys, Charles Dorety, Monte Collins, Jack Herrick and Jim Farley. [thanks to Steve Rydzewski and Jesse Brisson]
-Peter Mikkelsen has sent in some lovely hi-resolution images and upgrades for The Rogue Song. You may have to press CTRL/F5 on the page (a hard refresh) to see the changes?
-Thanks to Dave Pickard who has sent his 24th donation to the site. All goes to my "Walk To Wales" fund in July. Really helpful!
-Steve Rydzewski has submitted several new additions to the site, which I am scrambling to get up. First up is Bert Apling.
-Added a page for Max Davidson's film Tell It To The Judge and included a lobby card.
-Updated the page for Bert Sprotte.
-Updated the page for Hazel Howell.
-An important discovery from LampyMeier2007, who has identified Gustav Schaffrath as the baby in Sailors, Beware!. This was previously believed to be Harry Earles.
-Steve Rydzewski has identified Jack Adams in Sugar Daddies and The Battle Of The Century; as well as Harry Todd in Luke Joins The Navy. Also, Owen Evans and Jack Lloyd (as the landlady) in The Lucky Dog.
-Thanks to Ian Taylor for his fourth donation to the site. All donations for this website are being put towards my "Walk To Wales" fund: On July 26th 2021 I will be walking from London to Wales over a period of 10 days.
-Added Judith Vosselli, Nance O'Neil, Elsa Alsen, Florence Lake, Wallace MacDonald, James Bradbury Jr., John Carroll, Frankie Genardi and Albertina Rasch to the site.
-Updated the page for Jack Dart.
-Added lots of stills, lobby cards, poster and film articles for The Rogue Song, as well as completing the cast listing.
-Clearing more of the e-mails backlog. Today's updates were submitted from Craig Calman:
-Added Harry Northrup, Lucy Beaumont, Lumsden Hare, Paul Lukas to the site.
-Added new film credits for Bob O'Conor, Lester Dorr, Robert Milasch, Jim Mason, Frank Hagney, Grant Gorman and Anita Garvin.
-Jim Jarvis has provided a head shot image for Charles Hagar.
-Viewed and reviewed a Oliver Hardy solo film The Pest (1917) after it was given to me this week. Awful rubbish.
-As from today this website now has a secure certificate and is now https:// (instead of the old http://). You should see the secure padlock symbol next to the URL name in your browser whenever you are the site from now on. My thanks to Chris Bungo and his staff for making this happen. I was advised not to make any changes or updates to the site in the past few days whilst this was done. So now it's back to work with sifting through the backlog of e-mails on my "to do" list, which believe it or not has reduced from 230 to just 56.
-New updates from the e-mail backlog now applied [courtesy Craig Calman]: Updated the pages for Marc Lawrence, Jack Mulhall, Lyle Tayo, Evelyn Burns and James Finlayson with new film credits.
-Fixed the broken link for Crete Carton when accessed from the Actors A-Z page.
-Added an image to represent Jack Roach.
-Updated the page for Helen Dale with new film credit. [thanks to Jim & Jesse]
-Updated Bob Minford's page with a couple of new screenshots.
-I have been handed a rare Oliver Hardy solo film, "The Pest" (1917) which I will add shortly.
-Thanks to Eric Schultz for his 35th donation to the site. It helps a lot.
-With regards to this website, I constantly receive e-mails from fans who want to contribute information, send suggestions and offer corrections. I really appreciate that, but sometimes I get a bit overwhelmed with it all and find myself becoming lazy in actually attending to it. Whenever I receive such a mail I either deal with it straight away or send it to a folder called "TO DO" on my e-mail InBox. Today I thought I would make a deliberate start to go and sort some of them out now and clear the folder. Then I saw how far back they go! My first e-mail in the folder dates back 8 years to April 2013!!! I have 230 mails to go through. Let's go:
-Steve Phillips sent me DVD comparison notes for Pardon Us from June 2013, which are now up on the page.
-Added this still for The Old Wallop, courtesy Steve Randisi.
-Updated the page for Patsy O'Byrne with 11 new film credits, taking her from 9 - to 20 films and into the Top Stars chart. (#145, level with ZaSu Pitts now) Thanks to Craig Calman.
-Added screenshot for Flaette Roberts, so now we know what she looks like.
-Bob Peterson has identified some of the girl tap-dancers in Our Gang's Aladdin's Lantern (1938); as well as ID'ing Betsy Gay and Gloria Browne in The Pinch Singer (1936) and Arbor Day (1936).
-Peter Mikkelsen has sent a hi-res scan replacement for this image of Edna Marion and Charle Chase.
-Jesse Brisson has finally uncovered the identity of "the mystery man". I had noticed this same actor in several Roach films over the years but never had a name for him so I listed him on the site as 'The Mystery Man'. But now finally he has a name: he is Bob Minford. I would have announced this earlier but I have had to go through the films and manually change all the code over to reflect his identity. Still haven't quite finished doing it but here you go.....
-Robert Winslow has submitted extensive bio information on Marvin Loback and Harry Bowen.
-Robert Winslow has submitted his review and notes for the Charley Chase film Okay Toots! (1935), which I have now published on the site.
-Added Frank Benson, Margaret Morgan, Bea Nigro and Edward Thomas to the site.
-Rick Greene has sent in a colour poster to replace the grainy black & white one previously on the site for Saps At Sea (1940).
-FINALLY! After ten months I have now sought after and been granted the permission to finally publish the screenshots for my review of Charley Chase's Leaping Love (1929). Whereas I am very grateful for the trust and confidence shown in me, I am also disgusted and frustrated by the continuous attitude of those who want to keep this stuff hidden away and locked up for ever. This is the sort of shit that makes me just walk away from doing this website. My sincere thanks to my source for the film - who has strictly told me he wishes to remain anonymous.
-Peter Mikkelsen has sent 19 high quality hi-resolution stills to the site for Flying Elephants - including a new one of Dorothy Coburn! They can be found on "section 2" on the page.
-Jim Jarvis has offered some additional information (including correct birth date) for Ruth Adams.
-Thanks to Irv Hyatt for his 21st donation to the site. Which has reminded me.... I have a website to update!
-Robert Winslow has contributed a lot of information regarding the Charley Chase film All Parts (1928).
-Fellow Brit Lewis Davenport has sent me an extensive amount of research he has conducted on Frank Terry/Nat Clifford. It confirms that he was BRITISH and not American (which when you think about it makes sense, given his accent). Great work, Lewis.
-Another collaboration with Robert Winslow, co-creator of The Back Lot Tour, who has once again submitted an extensive review and trivia notes for the Musical-Comedy Benny, From Panama (1934). Another credit for Edgar Sherrod, but I do have to say I do disagree with Robert's other suggestions of unidentified cast members.
-Page upgrade with new trivia notes sent in by Robert Winslow, for Charley Chase's Another Wild Idea (1934). He confirms my suspicion of Billy Engle (now 42 film credits), and also adds Eddie Dunn (now 38) to the cast liast as well. Great work, thanks Bob. Got tons of other stuff to add but it's finding the time to do it all.
-More identified actors from It Happened One Day include: Charles Dorety (now 22 film credits), Art Rowlands (12), Ray Turner (7), Bobby Callahan (6), and Harry Dunkinson (4). All pages now updated. Thanks to Jesse for his help.
-Viewed and reviewed Charley Chase's It Happened One Day (1934) after some extensive notes sent to me by Robert Winslow. Found some previously-uncredited actors as well: Carl M. Leviness (now 16 film credits), Ernie Alexander (26), and Harry Bernard (96), (and a possible Charles Dorety?). So that bumps all of their credits up. A good day's work. Thanks Bob, for the motivation on this one.
Reviews, screenshots, programming: Dave Lord Heath ~ ~ Research detectives: Jesse Brisson, Jim Jarvis ~ ~ Web hosting: Chris Bungo
Background image courtesy Marc Wanamaker - used with his permission
CONTACT THE SITE firstname.lastname@example.org - or use the site's Forum.